RE: is marriage extropic?

From: Harvey Newstrom (
Date: Sat Nov 11 2000 - 02:15:58 MST

J. R. Molloy wrote,
> It seems to me the most extropic people have either avoided marriage,
> tolerated it as a necessary evil, or abandoned it.
> I'm thinking of Socrates, Turing, Galileo, Oscar Wilde, Siddhartha, and
> others.

That's because these were all gay.

Another fun fact: Plato's "Platonic love" (taught from Socrates) was not
really non-sexual. He was espousing the virtues of homosexual love over
heterosexual love. The catholic church took out all the sexual references
when they translated the classics from Latin.

For bonus points: Why did Plato think that gay relationships were superior?
It was not just his own preferences. Under the Roman Empire, only men were
educated, could own land, could run businesses, or could be citizens. Plato
was actually arguing that an equal relationship with an intellectual
partner, a business partner or fellow citizen was more satisfying than an
unequal relationship between a Master and his servant girl or concubine. He
was arguing that men would be happier if they chose partners for their
intellectual, business or political savvy rather than just for procreation
or domination.

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