Re: Extropians Mailing List --Approval Procedure

From: Zero Powers (
Date: Sat Nov 04 2000 - 19:31:31 MST

>From: Spike Jones <>

>I havent participated in the discussion, but reading over it, I wondered
>where are all the openness and transparency advocates? I offer my
>real name (Greg Jones) my address, my phone number, my office
>number, anything. Why hide? The transparency age is coming, why
>not welcome it and take advantage of it for the good, instead of trying
>to fight it? If we get better transparency, we will have fewer repeats of
>the unfortunate Jamiro incident. Even newspaper make you attach your
>name to editorials. Sign it, own it!

As I've said before, I'm all for mutual transparency, emphasis on the
mutual. The transparency I'm interested in is so pervasive that anyone can
access anything about me so long as I know who, when, where, how and why
they accessed it. Me giving my phone number to people who promise to keep
it secret, without me having any means of making sure that they do, or being
immediately aware of it if they don't, does not come close to the
transparency I advocate. You are right, of course. Ubiquitous transparency
is coming. I look forward to it. But until it's actually ubiquitous and
mutually verifiable, I'll keep my phone number to myself thank you.


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