Women and men and violence and crime, was Re: Appropriateness of discussing guns

From: Michael M. Butler (butler@comp-lib.org)
Date: Sat Oct 07 2000 - 18:42:29 MDT

One observation cluster, after which I will shut up. Notice that the
header of this page say explicitly

"...in their relationships with their spouses or male partners...".

I believe I understand that this subthread was about a claim that men
vastly predominate in overall violent crime. The response was to mention
a whole bunch of research on women acting in domestically violent ways.

There is a disconnect here; no numerical relationship of the two
populations is made. Certainly, some people don't have partners;
certainly, partners are not the only people who attack other people.
Also, since it's a quick set of summaries, no definitions are provided,
e.g., what constituted "severe physical aggression" in dating? Slapping
someone who said something rude? Or forcing a broken broomstick up his
alimentary system?

I once had a bad scene in which, as I was leaving, the female I was
arguing with slammed the door while my hand was curled around the jamb.
Blood and pain ensued. Did she assault me, or was she just trying to
keep me from leaving? I figured the latter, and still do. I have never
assaulted a woman. So someone looking for it would smell blood (so to
speak) and tally up another 1-to-nothing woman-harming-man stat. Would
that be right?

It would be interesting to see a male v female breakdown on state and
federal crime statistics per se. Not to say that the general state of
those (completeness, accuracy, standards, etc.) is anything to be proud
of. After the numbers were up, we could make claims about how they
seemed skewed.

"J. R. Molloy" wrote:
> > I become strangely calm and persuasive in confrontational situations.
> You seem quite persuasive concerning your calmness. Have you confronted your
> strangeness?
> http://www.vix.com/menmag/fiebert.htm

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