Re: Let's hear Eugene's ideas

From: Damien Broderick (
Date: Thu Oct 05 2000 - 21:34:55 MDT

At 03:21 AM 5/10/00 -0700, samantha wrote:

>> > Third, realistically the AI scenario will take time to unfold. As I
>> > have argued repeatedly, self-improvement can't really take off until
>> > we can build super-human intelligence on our own (because IQ 100 is
>> > self-evidently not smart enough to figure out how to do AI, or else
>> > we'd have had it years ago).

>No cutting edge technology comes from the middle of the Bell Curve. I
>don't see the point of this argument.

I believe Eugene was using order-of-magnitude metonymy. IQ 80-180 is the
same thing by comparison with IQ 1000 or 10,000 [if that metric meant

I do see the force of the claim, but it might still be wrong, since
emergence of effective AI might, after all, depend on ramping up the
substrate technologies by brute force via Moore's law.

Damien Broderick

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