Re: Genderless societies [was Re: kathryn's comments]

Elizabeth Childs (
Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:24:39 -0700

> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Bryan Moss wrote:
> > Michael S. Lorrey wrote Re: women viewing security as more important
> > than freedom.
> >
> > So then, Mike, what's the solution?
> >
> I can think of 3, perhaps in order of deliverability:
> (a) Testostrone patches (for women), or the pill perhaps (for men).

So let me get this straight - we're going to increase freedom by requiring people to alter their hormonal balance? (Which is quite dangerous, by the way).

Michael, Bryan, Robert - I'm curious where you guys are located geographically. I live in Berkeley, California, where the women are loud, the men are in touch with their feminine sides, and practically everyone seems to be bisexual. While I do think there are some significant differences in male and female personalities that are probably biologically influenced, this tendency you guys have to put the whole human race in either a "girl" box or a "boy" box is alien to me. The people around me differ much more between individuals than they do between genders, and I think most of the research supports me on that.

Do you guys live somewhere with much more rigid gender roles? Just think how different your perspectives on women would be if you lived in a traditional Middle Eastern country. Perhaps some of your thinking here is culturally based.

Here's the Reason article I mentioned earlier. It supports my conclusion that yes, there are some differences between men and women, but that the differences between individuals are greater: