Re: understanding neuroscience

Clint O'Dell (
Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:23:31 MDT

Robert Bradbury wrote:
>Indifference is difficult to achieve I would agree. The
>two best techniques that I know about are "self-observational"
>meditation and the "Stop" technique developed (or at least
>used) by the Russian(?) mystic Gurdieff. I'm not sure
>the stop technique (where a teacher requests that the student
>"stop" and notice the thoughts passing through the mind)
>can work on oneself. It would seem to require an isolated
>part of the mind that can produce random interrupts.

These are the techniques I use to make my observations. I don't know who Gurdieff is, I discovered it myself when I was about 11. That was the time I truly comprehended what it meant to die. I knew for a fact then that there was no heaven, hell, after-life, God, or gods. Before then I was agnostic. Having no evidence, direct or indirect, and recognizing the childish beliefs of my father and close relatives I just couldn't believe what I was being told; so, I had to find out for myself. That is when I became a philosopher and studied everything around me, finding my own answers to questions. Around 12 or 13 I started exploring my own thoughts. I noticed that my thoughts and memories usually 'triggered' other thoughts and memories. I knew then that they must be related. Also, having been institutionalized for 3 years I had a chance to study the minds of mentally ill patients and the minds of mentally capable psychologist and psychiatrist. While there I also learned about memory. I paid close attention to the tests the doctors gave me and questioned my self why they asked the questions they did and why were they constantly performing CAT scans.
To this day all I know why is that there is something 'odd' about my brain. I always thought these doctors were pretty stupid if they can only tell my brain was 'odd' and couldn't tell me what made it odd. I must have been part of some sort of experiment or something because they wouldn't tell me a dam thing!

Anyways, there came a time when I had no emotions at all. Complete indifference. That lasted a few months until they started pumping me with all sorts of medication. But during that time is when I came across my most important discoveries about myself. Those are what I'm trying to write down, for the first time, in my posts. Some of the things I figured out I can't remember very well. Like how 'free will' works.

When they finally let me go, I was a complete emotional idiot! I've been working for 2 years now to rebuild myself. It took more than 2 years to discover how stupid I had become. Entered a genius, exited a slightly above average idiot.

But my point is, you can observe thoughts go through your mind, you just can't think about them as they occur unless you develop a side (thread) thought process. You can do that through practice. Start out trying to do two simple math problems at once.

And yes, random interrupts would be necessary. Any evidence for this as of yet? Anyone know?

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