Re: cryonics for all who attended the Conference (fwd)

Max More (
Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:01:54 -0700

At 08:07 PM 8/11/99 -0700, Robert Bradbury wrote:
>> Spike Jones <> wrote:
>> John, this is not the answer to your question, but I did get a paradigm
>> shift from talking to Eric Drexler. I confessed to him that I found the
>> whole notion of cryonics most distasteful, and that I was willing to try
>> *anything* including caloric restriction, giving up masturbation,
>> in order to live long enough to upload without having to take the ol'
>> cold bath. His point was, the only other two options to cryonics
>> currently is to be incinerated or devoured by microbes. Ill take...
>> nitrogen for 500 please Alex.
>For the record book, did Eric first present this pardigm at Extro3
>or at the 1998 Foresight Institute Senior Associates gathering?
>I seem to remember it being part of the discussion regarding the first
>presentation of the Crit software, but my memory is fuzzy and I'm
>unsure of when this occured.

Eric should be credited with many things, but this not one of them. Extro 3 was two years ago, while this "paradigm" or choice has been around for much longer (at least 12 years in my experience). A particularly nice version of the choice matrix was given by Ralph Merkle a few years ago.


Max More, Ph.D.
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