Re: The Copy Question

J. R. Molloy (
Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:23:02 -0700

From: John Clark <>
>I don't care because I'm only interested in red, and there is only one red.

Only one _pure_ red exists, yes.

>A property is part of the thing in question, without the property you
>have the thing. A product is not part of the thing that makes it. To
>which category consciousness belongs in ask your self this question, is an
>unconscious brain in a deep sleep still a brain?

A conscious brain does not mean the same as an unconscious brain in a deep sleep, obviously.
The property of redness may derive from any number of things. So, the property (or more accurately, the epiphenomenon) of consciousness may derive from a brain or from a computational device or a holographic generator or whatever. To derive pure consciousness from a machine has value identical to that of deriving pure consciousness from a human brain, viz.., zero (none).