Post Extropianism: (Was Free Markets: Extro-Nazi's, etc

Holly Pearson (
Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:02:13

I have been a subscriber to Extropy since issue #4. Despite a
tendency towards callousness and an almost blind faith that the free-market
will fix everything, I have continued to tap in to the extropian culture
becuase despite the lopsidded nature of many extropians viewpoints, there
is amazing cogitation going on here. I would be a fool not to utilize


Extropianism has as its basic tenet the goal of surpassing all limits
to our freedom. But as extropians rush to shed the tryannies of
government, authority, death and taxes they rush to embrace the blind tyranny
of evolution and the free-market. You have accepted the slavery of
natural selection and market pressures to get ajob. the extropian tyrannical
maxim is: Evolve or die! Please witness the following posts made in
the last 24 hours:

Andrea Gallagher:

I worry about the people who are completely excluded in participating
in our economy by drug laws, sub-standard education, and welfare traps.
Fix those problems and I bet we could handle your hard cases.

Me: Who said the solution is geting these people back to work? I want
to eliminate mandatory work altogether. Prosperity w/o drudgery is my
goal! Pass the joint!


The "LIVNGRY" you speak of has "enabled" the corfters for JUST long
enough to destroy their livelihood! As with Native Americans, it also sets
up a system where the government has
control, a hand out, and the power to provide - and the populace is
"disenfranchised" - or "dis-empowered". I do have compassion for these
people, and it is sadly disturbing, becauseas your post suggests, the
problem nor the solution is simple to solve.
But facts show: we provide for people in need, we also rob them of
theirdignity!! It is a humanitarian's nightmare.

Me: All I can say here is its all nonsense. You are saying people
must work work work! How puritan of you! Yes, I did see the movie
transpotting. Those people have no incentive to better themselves.

Lee Daniel Crocker:

If one lacks the necessary tools to survive in that culture ( and by
your description they will) then Evolution will be as unkind today as it
is on our homeless little brothers in the streets..

Me: Wouldn;t be nice just for once to not have to worry about
constantly updating your skills just to survive? What a bitch. Escape the
blind laws of evolution. I want my MTV and Liesure!!!

Lee Daniel Crocker: Evolution is not "kind" or "unkind"; it is
nothing more than a mathematical consequence of a certain set of initial
conditions: replication, mutation, competition. Far better to understand and
make use of an existing effectthan to try to fight it. You might as
well try fighting pi.

Me: What a defeatist attitude for an extropian. Fuck Pi! If I have
to struggle for billions of years with String Theory or wormhole physics
to beat pi, I will!

Accept *NO* Limits!!


Holly Pearson

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