Re: Government's war against it citizens
Sun, 24 Aug 1997 19:18:10 -0400 (EDT)

At 11:58 24-08-97 -0400, I wrote
>Government sharpshooter "was aiming at the other guy" and
>and killing instead mother with infant in arms. Charged with involuntary

// snip a lot of really bad stuff //

>What are we gonna do?

And you wrote

I'll just give you the left-wing, Dutch pinko view on this stuff and if you
want to flame me to crisp ... that is your right as a free entity.

(Never...disagree <violently...semantically speaking...perhaps>)

Maybe it would be worthwhile to try to break the armrace between a number
of citizens and American law-enforcement agencies.
If everybody can (and does) own guns, policing becomes dangerous as hell,
cops want bigger guns and more of them, and they will use them more often.

(Our second amendment to our constitution was intended as a last ditch
defense against tyranny...if everyone owns guns...the government is a bit
reluctant to get too uppity)

In Holland NOBODY get's to own a gun unless there are special circumstances.
our murder-rate is about 15 (fifteen!!) times as low as the US (per capita).
Now, there could also be other reasons for this but IM(very)HO the private
ownership of (hundreds?)of millions of handguns, shotguns and such has
something to do with it. I onze read somewhere that between 1965 and 1975
more than 500.000 US citizens where shot in the US (10 for every American
killed in 'nam).

(Interesting the US...violence tends to vary by locale...more in
inner cities than Rural and interestingly enough...less the closer to Canada
and more the closer to Mexico...I dunno why...but I can
politically incorrect and be "flamed to a crisp") (And Mexico bans guns
totally too...and has a VERY high rate of violence..higher than the US...but
we'll blame that on "Poverty")

For their sake, please consider a society without (to much) guns and a
governement that you at least trust a little bit.

(trust must be my lifetime it's been betrayed)

Seems to work out more or less here ...

If the US governement is as F*%$#-up as you seem to believe (I woulnd't
know, being on this side of the atlantic), why not get a new one? Last time
I heard the US was a democracy.

(I heard it was a democracy too...I'm beginning to doubt it...less than 15%
of the populance voted for our current president...but there he is...some
democracy...<yeah...I know...voter apathy...more like voter disgust...>)

Mick, in spite of the fact that I don't always agree with you, I find you
down-to-earth remarks very refreshing (and fun!)....

(Thank you...very flattering...and I DO many times agree with you....and
didn't until this minute know you were in (from) Holland....such a deal!!!)

Florence South Carolina