Re: Setting the controls for the sun

Anders Sandberg (
Sat, 16 Aug 1997 21:23:03 +0200 (MET DST)

On Sat, 16 Aug 1997, Paul Hughes wrote:

> Yes - that is correct. I last laid eyes on it over 7 years ago.
> As I recall he was definitely trying to *extend* the life of the sun
> by converting it into a white dwarf. His hope was to *sustain* a
> 10E15+ population solar civilization over trillions of years.
> I find this whole concept interesting - as extropians do we emphasize
> intelligence increase (your method), longevity (Criswells/Beech’s
> method) or a delicate balance of both?

I think we should maximize the integral of intelligence over time.
Both methods may be workable; a lot of intelligence in a short time,
a bit less for a very long time.

My guess is that we do not need to blow up the sun as soon as
possible (even if we have the technology), since we can spread among
the stars. But when all of the galaxy has been dysoned and the
inhabitants of the solar system realize they can't expand outwards,
they might start to think about doing some stellar engineering...

Actually, I think it might be a great idea to divide the stars into a
lot of small red dwarfs instead of these beautiful but wasteful G and
F stars (not to mention the giants!) - that will save a lot of
otherwise wasted matter and energy and give us space for a lot of
dyson spheres.

Anders Sandberg Towards Ascension!
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