Re: Dyson 1, Tipler 0

Anders Sandberg (
Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:19:50 +0200 (MET DST)

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Damien Broderick wrote:

> I'm somewhat disheartened to report that the universe seems to be open.
> The Big Crunch and its Omega deity are therefore off the agenda, unless we
> and our AI pals get in there and really push (well, pull), tweaking the
> parameters.

Either we have to learn to deal with it (opting for the Dyson
scenario), or we have to change it. Baby universes are neat, but has
anybody looked at the possibility of "closing off" a part of the
universe by moving mass around?

> This data is very recent - the latest observations were made less than 10
> days ago. A second very similar study is currently under way in
> California. Schmidt expects to learn if the results converge `in the next
> few years'.

We'll see. So far it sounds like it has not been reviewed; the
question is far from settled.

Anders Sandberg Towards Ascension!
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