Last word from me on this, was Re: FAIR WARNING: A GUN cartoon. I happen to like this one...

From: Michael M. Butler (
Date: Mon Sep 24 2001 - 01:58:17 MDT

It's extremist. It's a cartoon. And I see no reason not to require everyone to
load frangible or not board. At the moment, LEOs can load whatever they want.
The data is still out on exactly what credentials the bad guys carried.
Credentials can be faked, as we all know.

Seriously, defensive use of any firearm on board an aircraft is a calculated
risk, and doing it right requires a _lot_ of training and practice. Head shots
down the length of a stretch DC-9? Nein danke. Twenty-way crossfire? Absolutely

However, if the current word of FAA's Notice of Proposed Rulemaking _removing_
the existing "loophole" for _flight crews_ to qualify and carry is true, this
sort of propaganda has its place, I think.

I'll take flames and further comments off list.


Eugene Leitl wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Michael M. Butler wrote:
> > Go ahead, call me any name you like. This one really does feel good.
> >
> >
> Except that the terrorrists would then have guns, too, and unless
> everybody was loaded frangible the plane would be downed in no time, being
> shot full of holes.

Job One:  MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL.  If you're not part of the solution, 

what are you doing scumming up the bottom of our beaker? --MMB 02001.09.21

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