Re: Extropian principles (Off-Subject?)

From: Natasha Vita-More (
Date: Sat Sep 22 2001 - 11:16:33 MDT

At 04:07 PM 9/21/01 -0700, PoC wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Natasha Vita-More wrote:
>> I'm not sure what the current leanings of this thread have to do with the
>> Subject line.  Would you kindly let us know, of if it is off-subject,
>> please start a new thread.

>What one sentence summary would you give for Extropian Principles?

I'm not sure I can put it into one sentence, although I have thought of the principles as being - the framework for intellection on the human condition and a guide for living as a transhumanist. -

>about, "The betterment of humanity through high technology"?

I don't think.  High technology is too broad a concept and not all high technology is or will be used to improve the human condition.  On a sense-level, it's rather cold.

>If that is
>close, I am asking that one look at the hazards of the the modern
>lifestyle in the broad sense and see where technology can better the
>living conditions of people. The incentive should be RATIONALLY based
>according to the principles I read. And rationality would look at the cost
>of not acting in terms of casualties/fatalities would it not?

I'll just quote from the Web site what is says, and perhaps someone can put it into one sentence:

"Extropianism is a transhumanist philosophy. The Extropian Principles define a specific version or "brand" of transhumanist thinking. Like humanists, transhumanists favor reason, progress, and values centered on our well being rather than on an external religious authority. Transhumanists take humanism further by challenging human limits by means of science and technology combined with critical and creative thinking. We challenge the inevitability of aging and death, and we seek continuing enhancements to our intellectual abilities, our physical capacities, and our emotional development. We see humanity as a transitory stage in the evolutionary development of intelligence. We advocate using science to accelerate our move from human to a transhuman or posthuman condition. As physicist Freeman Dyson has said: 'Humanity looks to me like a magnificent beginning but not the final word.'"

"These Principles are not presented as absolute truths or universal values. The Principles codify and express those attitudes and approaches affirmed by those who describe themselves as 'Extropian'. Extropian thinking offers a basic framework for thinking about the human condition. This document deliberately does not specify particular beliefs, technologies, or conclusions. These Principles merely define an evolving framework for approaching life in a rational, effective manner unencumbered by dogmas that cannot survive scientific or philosophical criticism. Like humanists we affirm an empowering, rational view of life, yet seek to avoid dogmatic beliefs of any kind. The Extropian philosophy embodies an inspiring and uplifting view of life while remaining open to revision according to science, reason, and the boundless search for improvement."  Max More


Natasha Vita-More
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