Re: TERRORISM: looking for solutions

From: Joe Dees (joedees@addall.com)
Date: Thu Sep 13 2001 - 01:56:41 MDT


('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is) >Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 22:48:37 -0700
> Adrian Tymes <wingcat@pacbell.net> Re: TERRORISM: looking for solutions extropians@extropy.orgReply-To: extropians@extropy.org
>
>Joe Dees wrote:
>> >From: Adrian Tymes <wingcat@pacbell.net>
>
>> >One of the better solutions I've heard today is to train the stewards
>> >in security. Give them batons and tasers, normally concealed under
>> >their uniforms (don't want to *look* threatening), and make sure they
>> >know how to use them. The number of ways a passenger-turned-terrorist
>> >can try to take over a plane is limited; most of them can probably be
>> >programmed into simulators for training against. Main objective is to
>> >prevent hijacking, but this might also be useful day-to-day in cases of
>> >severe air rage.
>> >
>> This might work against a lone terrorist, but the cellphone calls
>> that came from the planes indicated that there were as many as a
>> half-dozen hijackers per plane.
>
>Fine. There's *how* many stewards?
>
Let's ask, and also ask about the height, weight, gender and combat training of the average stew.
>
>And the stewards could gang up on
>each terrorist, while the terrorists would have to disperse since
>they're monitoring all the passengers.
>
You seem to think that there are dozens of them per plane. Who have YOU been flying with?
>
>BTW, to those who suggested guns: I suggested batons and tasers because
>they don't punch holes in the aircraft hull...and they tend to be less
>deadly to any hostages or other bodies that happen to get in the way.
>Killing an enemy is not always the best way to remove the threat they
>represent.
>
In fact, the best way I've seen advocated onlist is cockpit security. But we're gonna have sky marshals anyway; let's hope they're not like elderly bank guards, and know how to retain and use the weapons they're issued, while avoiding depressurizing the plane in the process.

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