An apology - Re: Singularity: Can't happen here

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Mon Sep 10 2001 - 16:59:37 MDT

On the idea of taking over a state by democratic means through
packing it with dedicated libertarians, I retract my earlier
views and apologize for laughing at the concept. On further
reflection the idea has some real merit. I still worry about
the size of the possible military response to an actual
secession though.

- samantha

Brian Phillips wrote:
> From: Mike Lorrey <>
> Subject: Re: Singularity: can't happen here
> Samantha Atkins wrote:
> >
> > This is nearly a declaration of war. Any one got any suggested
> > new homes for ex-US citizens? If this passes there will be
> > little reason to be here.
> Mike Lorrey wrote
> <I think that the best option is secession of some small population US
> state. Look at the Free State Project (,
> which seeks to get 20,000 libertarian minded people to move to one state
> to tip its political balance toward libertarian policies if not outright
> secession. Current top candidates are New Hampshire and Alaska, among
> others like Wyoming, etc. Note that the secessionist party in Alaska
> allegedly got 25% of the vote in the last election, and New Hampshire
> has elected more libertarian state legistlators (25) in the last ten
> years than any other.>
> I have to say Alaska would be the best bet. 620,000 population.
> Not sure whether that includes military personnell. You'd have to be
> prepared for some shenigans involving absentee voting by all the
> military personnel who spent a tour in Alaska and declared it their
> home of record to get the resident stipend :)
> It's arguably the best state to go it alone, geographically isolated,
> plentiful rescources, not sharing a common border with the states is
> helpful. But maybe the most important part is only Hawaii has a
> better legitimate legal justification for seccession.
> Bringing about a statewide referendum on the "4 choices" wouldn't
> be nearly as difficult to pull off as trying to get a plurality in Wyoming.
> To say nothing of trying to run an independant country out of New
> Hampshire.
> brian

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