I dunno. I have included the original message I responded to
below. Perhaps it is a language or cultural thing but it was
written in very directly personal terms as far as I could tell.
Of course you could be using "your" in the group sense but that
is not the way I would first take it.
But beyond that little misunderstanding, I think the thoughts on
both sides are important to delve into a bit. Your advice seems
to be that we should not get involved at all in politics or in
protesting disasterous policies before they become law but
rather go found a new state/country/colony somehow.
But my response is that this is very longterm work and difficult
to carry off in this world. Doing so is far more likely to
distract us for quite some years from the work of transforming
ourselves and humanity. And that path of separation is fraught
with considerable danger. Perhaps much more so than fighting
the darkness where each of is now or where we choose to be among
the existing states.
- samantha
"Chen Yixiong, Eric" wrote:
>
> > I am not a cracker and I see no point in a "mail bomb".
>
> Please read carefully, I did not point any finger at anyone (in the sense of launching personal attacks). If any of you insist on pointing fingers at me, I will not reply. In any case, I don't like the concept of a "personal" discussion group but more of a more objective one.
>
> As for Samantha, I think your ideas justify mine. I merely used your message as a context for my advice. Please accept my apologies for the miscommunication.
>
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original message
Again, I must bring to your attention that we can consider
setting up an independent colony to
get out of this mess. This does not mean escapism, but that we
must recognise that a lot of
people refuse to lead a liftstyle that we belive they should and
could (i.e. maximising their own
freedom). We can set up a colony and both groups (i.e. ourselves
and the rest who choose to
refuse) live life as all of us prefer.
Refusal to recognize this fact would only bring disaster to all
your efforts to prevent the loss of
your freedoms. Violence and clashes calculated to reduce the
influence of your Governments, of
insufficient people, would only lead to busy emergency rooms and
more business for the
undertakers. It would probably lead to the loss of your
individual freedom too, as in enjoying
free lodging from your Governments.
Attempts to mail bomb will only classify yourself as a malicious
"hacker" intent on creating a
Denial-of-Service (DOS) attack on Government servers (as what
the Singapore Government had
done for an unrelated case). Even if your mails get through,
they would only experience
censorship from the human operators who get to press the delete
key constantly.
Think carefully about your actions and consequences.
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