Re: Transhuman(ist)

Date: Thu Aug 09 2001 - 17:47:15 MDT

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>Natasha, calm down. ("If ... then this is an area to contemplate for your
own communications skills" sounds to me like it's intended as an insult.
It's unwarranted here.)<

(giggle) If you could see me sitting back with my legs up on my desk, you would surely recognize that I'm very relaxed my dear.

>No one said anyone "considered humans to be foolish". Eliezer was trying
to tell you that he thinks people who say "I am a transhuman" sound to
non-extropians like they are are putting on airs. He doesn't think humans
are foolish and he doesn't think you do either. That's why it's worth
pointing out to you that that's what it might sound like to some people.
If you don't want them to hear that, you might consider different

Here is exactly the point. Consider that perhaps it is Eli who himself who is concerned that people think he is putting on airs. If this is his concern, and a valid one at that, then the solution might be to phrase why he considers himself a transhuman or transhumanist.

>If you disagree with him that anyone hears it that way, that's a different
thing you might argue with Eliezer about. If you think there aren't many,
or that the ones who do aren't worth considering, then you might bring
those facts up. (It's because I think that you will consider the opinions
of only a few members of the public to be important that I bring this up,
not because I think it likely that you will think it's good to ignore their

Yes, I do disagree with him as he presented the issue, as I stated. And, herein, I think every person's voice is worth considering. It is the manner in which one says that he is a transhuman *and* the explanation if anyone wants to know. I realy do think it is a lot different from the person at Marble Arch in London, or on Figueroa in downtown Los Angeles who is proclaiming in a declaratory fashion "I am the Hercules!"


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