Re: New Ways of Thinking

From: J. R. Molloy (jr@shasta.com)
Date: Mon Aug 06 2001 - 21:42:23 MDT


From: "Harvey Newstrom" <mail@HarveyNewstrom.com>
> Have you added science to your list of
> useless hypotheses?

Hi Harvey!
Nice to see you still contribute your special brand of incisive analysis to
the list.

No, I have definitely NOT added science to the list of useless hypotheses, and
do not intend ever to do so. Science (besides being my first cognitive love)
appears to me the only real prospect humanity has of escaping impending
societal disintegration at the hands of those who oppose reason and resist
empirical evidence. Signs of this impending societal disintegration are the
popularity of preposterous "reparations" schemes and the irrational dismissal
of ubiquitous misandry.

> You seem to be finding more and more ways to come to
> conclusions while bypassing critical thinking, scientific method, and the
> like. You almost seem to have the mystical expectation that "truth" will
> just be known to you, and that attempts to find the truth will fail.

Operative word being "seem."

> You sometimes seem concerned that people miss your points. I think this is
> because nobody can understand what you are talking about. The above
> sentences seem to be more like a religious stream-of-consciousness rather
> than a discussion with someone else. You seem to be referencing implied
> concepts with your words that only you seem to know about. They are not
> explicitly included in your postings.

Operative word being "seem."

> > Perhaps the word "mind" obscures the issue, because this word can be
> > interpreted in more than one way. So I say parts of the brain
> > seek control, and as the brain comes to recognize and
> > acknowledge the unity of reality, it
> > understands that control is an illusion.
>
> To be honest, I cannot fathom your reality where you experience direct truth
> without thought, consciousness or mind. It is always interesting to read
> your posts, but I have the constant feeling that I must be missing
> something. Do you have a reference for your belief system, or a webpage, or
> a name for the world-view you espouse?

No, no, no... not "direct truth" -- rather direct _experience_. It has nothing
whatsoever to do with belief.
A name for it?? How 'bout existence. Yeah, that's it... The name of my
world-view is the scientific study of existence (with no capital "e").


Stay hungry,

--J. R.

Useless hypotheses, etc.:
 consciousness, phlogiston, philosophy, vitalism, mind, free will, qualia,
analog computing, cultural relativism, GAC, Cyc, Eliza, and ego.

     Everything that can happen has already happened, not just once,
     but an infinite number of times, and will continue to do so forever.
     (Everything that can happen = more than anyone can imagine.)

We won't move into a better future until we debunk religiosity, the most
regressive force now operating in society.



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