RE: Fred Reed - The Dave Barry of Racists

From: Al Villalobos (
Date: Mon Aug 06 2001 - 11:06:54 MDT

Mike Lorrey wrote:

> Crime studies
> don't only look at arrest and conviction data.

>>However, I believe arrest and conviction data were the source of the stats
>>posted by Al V.

> Some deal with surveys of
> victims for a more victim-centric view of crime as it is committed, not
> as it is enforced.

>>Sounds interesting, Mike. Do you know whether references to any of these
>>surveys are online; if so, would you have any urls?
>>Gary Kleck's research deals mainly with guns, doesn't it? Couldn't find
>>anything on race. I did, however, find this:

[A critique of Gary Kleck's defensive gun use work is snipped here]



That info you want is from the Bureau of Justice Statistics at

Thats where I got those numbers, but there's a jillion more data sets
available. Browse around. I believe the main source of info is the FBI's
Uniform Crime Report (the UCR)
Like Mike said, there's a whole section on criminal victimization, i.e.
stats gathered from the VICTIMS of crime.



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