RE: Allowing the sweet voice of reason into our lives

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Sun Aug 05 2001 - 09:51:29 MDT


Olga writes

> Lee wrote:
>> Oh, Olga. You miss my point entirely. Here you are again
>> speaking in defense of liberalism, and you are already a
>> liberal! It doesn't count to say, "oh in my misguided youth
>> I was a conservative; but I repent!". Do you understand how
>> your example was self-serving to your present ideological
>> beliefs?
>
> I personally am not interested in discussing this any more, with
> people who claim to be reasonable - but drown out any kernel of
> an idea with ridicule and hyperbole and helpful suggestions to
> me about getting out and seeing the rest of the world (actually,
> I've already had that privilege).

Do you think that this is what I have done, and am doing?

> While I applaud that you have made journeys out of your comfort
> zone, it is arrogant for you to suppose that "we" [commie pinko
> socialist statist leftists that we are] have not examined issues
> out of our "comfort zone."

First, can you find where you were described as a commie or a
pinko on our recent discussion? Have you made a straw man here?
Second, I did not mean to imply that people from one side of
the political spectrum behave any different, statistically, than
those from any other part. I said as much on several occasions.
I have simply noted that, far from only "examining" issues out
of my comfort zone, I pulled the "other way" in the ideological
tug-of-war that has been going on. No one else has. No one
else probably will. J. R. has come very close in his long
stream of consciousness post, and Joe may be headed in that
direction. But that's it so far. So no one from the side
opposite to mine has even tried, so far as I can tell.

> C'mon, libertarians don't have a monopoly on "sweet reason."

Wow. You really read my appeal from a jaundiced viewpoint;
but then, so did most people, I think. There was never even
the *slightest* implication that there was a monopoly on
letting reason into our lives: it was clearly a description
of what may be possible for many people of every political
and philosophical position. But I am not too hopeful that
you are going to believe me, or go back and re-examine my post.

Lee



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