Re: Big Bang is Bunk

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Sat Jul 28 2001 - 15:36:03 MDT

"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> Samantha Atkins wrote:
> >
> > My own view of the ultimate ends of the universe and the fate of
> > life/mind/consciousness is that Mind ultimately will transcend
> > matter/energy/space/time entirely.
> If this is technologically feasible, why wouldn't we do it thirty physical
> seconds after the Singularity? Why should this be saved for the grand
> finale?

Because time and therefore processing and therefore certainly
learning will not proceed instantaneously immediately upon
Singularity occurring. Processing power can only be grown at
physically possible speeds. Using that capacity fully and well
proceeds even more slowly. Learning I expect proceeds more
slowly still. I think it is a mistake to assume that all that
is knowable will be known almost immediately after reaching

There is a cartoon from the series that I think was called "Bob
the Angry Flower" that shows instead an angry Galaxy Brain. In
the cartoon the galaxy sized mind is complaining to others of
its kind that it has computed all possible things and finished
so many picoseconds ago and now there is nothing more to do
forever! A small cluster brain responds, "I told you not to
compute It all at once. I told you you would be sorry!" :-)

I don't think arriving at the point I spoke of is the Grand
Finale at all. I don't think there is a "Grand Finale";
especially if it is possible to transcend this space/time
continuum and its limitations completely.

- samantha

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