RE: capitalist religion

From: Sean Kenny (seankenny@blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Tue Jul 24 2001 - 12:52:24 MDT


I don't think anyone in Europe would recognize US welfare as resembling
anthing that we would consider welfare

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[mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On Behalf Of Brian D Williams
Sent: 24 July 2001 15:14
To: extropians@extropy.org
Subject: re: capitalist religion

From: Miriam English <miriam@werple.net.au>

>>Brian D Williams wrote:

>>And for the record [guaranteed income] has been tested
>>empirically, it was called welfare, and it created a series of
>>much bigger problems in addition to not solving the one it was
>>created for.

>Interesting how you simply dismiss the subject, in line with your
>beliefs.

I dismiss it in line with the evidence.

>Take a quick look at the countries that use welfare. They have
>managed to give the poor a chance to get back into mainstream
>society. Contrast that against countries with little or no welfare
>that have absolutely horrendous poverty and suffering.

The U.S. is a country that uses welfare, it has been a disaster.
As a pluralist others are free to pursue whatever strategies they
like.

>Yes, welfare has problems, but it is leaps and bounds ahead of
>ensuring a permanent starving underclass.

Welfare has been a disaster, in the U.S it has helped create and
maintain such an underclass.

Thats why we're doing away with it.

Brian

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