Re: GEEKS: Linus Torvalds on Bill Joy

From: J. R. Molloy (
Date: Sun Jul 22 2001 - 16:15:37 MDT

From: "Anders Sandberg" <>
> Which is of course a good argument for diversity and allowing different
> people to become whatever they want. All the really dystopian scenarios
> are based on the idea of having everybody being forced (or making) the
> same mistake, with nobody remaining as dissenters, individual offshoots
> or genetic reserves.

As far as "arguments" go, I suppose diversity is as good as the next one. The
point made, however, was that it's inaccurate to think that the future doesn't
need us, because in fact we create the future, and in some ways, we _are_ the
future, despite Bill Joy's paroxysm.

Stay hungry,

--J. R.

Useless hypotheses, etc.:
 consciousness, phlogiston, philosophy, vitalism, mind, free will, qualia,
analog computing, cultural relativism, GAC, CYC, and ELIZA

     Everything that can happen has already happened, not just once,
     but an infinite number of times, and will continue to do so forever.
     (Everything that can happen = more than anyone can imagine.)

We won't move into a better future until we debunk religiosity, the most
regressive force now operating in society.

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