Re: NEWS: Genoa riots

From: Carlos Gonzalia (
Date: Sun Jul 22 2001 - 12:07:36 MDT

>I am curious as to what you are talking about. What countries were involved
>in this conduct you are talking about? What army? Not my army. What
>security forces? And which dictatorship are you talking about?
>Ron h.

Um. Darn, seems I'm bent on a path of confussion today, sorry. ;-)

Let's try again. I mentioned that in Argentina, it is not unheard of for
security forces to use live ammo to disperse protests, even pacific ones.
It is not a regular event, but it happens too often for good. In Argentina,
there is still a sad kind of institutional thinking inside security forces
that originates on the doctrines and methods of the last dictatorship.
The dictatorship I'm referring to is the 'Process of National
Reorganization', which ruled from 1976 to 1983 after a successful coup
against a democratic elected government. Our army, navy and air force
shared the government in equal terms via a triumvirate, with a fascist-like
political program and a pro-oligopolies economy program. They took control
of police matters and internal security too, quickly stomping the local
right-wing and left-wing guerillas. And then they proceeded to do away
with several thousand of political "undesirables", making abundant use of
small concentration camps, torture, death squads, rape, looting,
commercial fraud and such.

Not surprisingly, this behaviour became an institutional trait of all
our security forces for a long time after the 'Process' had to flee
in disgrace after bungling the economy completely and also losing a criminally
incompetent war on the Malvinas/Falklands against the UK. To a sadly long
extent, many personnel in federal and provincial police, army, and
territorial guard, still behave some times as if the old methods are
ok and immunity is the natural thing to expect.


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