Re: Gender Bias: Was capitalist religion

From: Mike Lorrey (
Date: Fri Jul 20 2001 - 12:49:10 MDT

"J. R. Molloy" wrote:
> From: "Mitchell, Jerry (3337)" <>
> > I really hope this doesnt get out of hand, but Im gonna try to call
> > this like I see it. Am I the only one picking up the message that men tend
> > to be more drawn to the dynamic environment of Capitalism, where women tend
> > to identify more with socialistic view?
> Your perception seems right on target to me.
> Anti-capitalism + Anti-masculism = Feminist~Socialism

I think though, that it would behoove us to look at why exactly women
tend to have a greater preference for security over freedom. I don't
accept blindly the assertion that it is genetic. If it is not, then
protocols can be fashioned to help mitigate such phenomena.

High freedom societies that are stable and relatively immune or
resistant to fascist takeover seems to be exclusively the realm of those
which are constructed on a basis of high trust between individuals
outside the family unit. The US government was constructed in such a
society (NOTE: High trust between individuals has nothing to do with
trust in government. The founding fathers trusted each other with the
reins of government, but not the instruments of government per se) of
white males who knew each other, and trusted those they didn't know
because they were also educated white males (i.e. recognised members of
the leadership class). Many of these white males were of the same
religious denomination, were Masons, and had attended the same colleges
and been members of the same state legislatures.

In this society, women and blacks were not trusted with the
responsibilities of citizenship, they were seen as less than capable of
bearing the 'white man's burden', and female blacks were considered
least capable of all.

When later on first blacks, then women, were enfranchised as full
citizens, there were significant movements who continued to oppose this,
either officially, unofficially, or systemically, which demonstrated to
the newly enfranchised groups that they were still not fully trusted for
reasons they had absolutely no control over, they had no hope of ever
earning through merit the trust of a full citizen with a large amount of
the white male populace, and that through that lack of trust, they
learned that the words that white men spoke in the open were not to be
trusted, because they could not be depended upon to follow through on
their lofty pronouncements of equal rights.

At the same time, the country was in desperate need of labor to build
the expansionist dreams of its leaders, westward into the frontier, and
forward with technology and infrastructure, such that immigration from
non-anglo countries vastly increased, and the lack of trust inherent in
these non-anglo cultures resisted the forces of assimilation, thus
diluting further the sum of trust between all individuals.

As a result, it is not surprising that women, being the last
enfranchised group, is the least trusting toward others, even between
themselves, to the point that studies show that all groups: black males,
black females, and white females all demonstrate greater trust for white
males than for members of their own group, and that these groups all
tend toward reliance on legal measures that prefer security to freedom.

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