Re: NEWS: Reuters story on AI (Kurzweil and Vita-More)

From: Anne Marie Tobias (
Date: Mon Jul 02 2001 - 23:57:34 MDT wrote:

> In a message dated 7/1/2001 7:05:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> writes:
> << Two assumptions that would be sufficient to recover the private
> life of dead individuals would be:
> a) that it is possible to scan the complete brain/consciousness
> at some point in the future;
> b) that it is possible to time-travel under closure (without
> spawning off some alternate universe).
> An alternate for (b) is that some advanced Power already set up
> the
> equipment and has been making such recordings all along. Which
> brings us back to the original scenario.
> - samantha >>
> Have you considered the old physics notion of unitarity-that even inside
> black holes, once these stellar objects release enough Hawking Radiation, the
> information is released? Hence the data is merely stored and released and
> not annihilated. Our thoughts and memories are, of course, electrochemical
> interactions and patterns that are unsustainable for very long. Given that,
> photons and electrons, interacting as part of the patterns, can be construed
> as a kind of reverse-determinism.
> Gather the paths up in the correct, fashion, and you once again have the
> pattern. All that said its going to be a freaking, huge, distance in time
> before purported minds or mind will re-assemble said patterns (pattern
> identity theory). Your suggestion sounds more sensible, over the "short
> term", but mine is for an epoch that would make Ander Sandberg's Jupiter
> Minds look like bright, pre-schoolers.
> Mitch

There is another set of opinions that suggest that all information about the
universe is encoded on the vibratory characteristics of strings, and as the
particles that make up matter approach a blackhole, the matter apparently
slows further and further and is shredded into ever finer bits, ultimately the
strings begin to freeze one resonance level at a time until you can read
every detail of the information they ever carried... all the matter entering a
black hole coughing up it's data since the beginning of the universe... it
would not take many black holes, before you had a pretty good look at
the lives and histories of countless stars, civilizations, and beings, and yes,
Mitch, the datasystem needed to read, deconstruct, and then reassemble
that kind of information would be a in all descriptions godlike.


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