Re: My view of AI: with spoilers

From: Mike Lorrey (
Date: Sun Jul 01 2001 - 06:50:40 MDT

Spike Jones wrote:
> Anders Sandberg wrote:
> > Spoileresque details:
> >
> > I disagree that it is a deathist movie. The big tragedy is that the
> > android gets his meaning of life from loving somebody. He lives only for
> > his love, making him fundamentally unable to be an independent being. He
> > can't grow up, he can't live without his dreams of Rachel. The future
> > belongs to the cynical gigolo androids :-)
> Altho disappointing in many ways, A.I. has some redeeming qualities
> I kinda see why Eliezer kinda liked it: in the end, when the humans were
> gone and everything was a machine, it was, well... OK.
> It was OK without the orgas. It helps us see that we *are* machines,
> the mechas are machines, we are real, they are real. We are machines
> with some fascinating flaws.
> Regarding cynical gigolo androids, if such a thing ever came to pass,
> you know we nerds would be trying to pass ourselves off as machines,
> by learning that head trick.
> Also, that final scene was well done methinks, because of the mechas
> looking down thru that window creating the impression of ambiguity
> between real and simulation. Spielberg slightly defocussed the camera
> at Davids homecoming to emphasize that you really dont know
> if this is the atom world or electron world. I got the impression that
> David was in a sim for the last few minutes of the film.
> Question: if all the ice on earth melted, how much would the seas rise?

Allegedly 200 meters, 2 of which would be absorbed by the Caspian Sea
and other areas below sea level that are not filled with water
currently. This would require a temperature increase at a minimum of 15
degrees (since my cousin found that the Antarctic has been stable for
the last 22 million years, and that is the hottest temperature in that

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