Re: META: Why I'm boycotting Extropy (TM)

From: Randy Smith (randysmith101@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Sep 08 2000 - 23:18:48 MDT


>From: Lee Daniel Crocker <lee@piclab.com>
>Reply-To: extropians@extropy.org
>To: extropians@extropy.org
>Subject: Re: META: Why I'm boycotting Extropy (TM)
>Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:58:34 -0700 (PDT)

>Good, so are we. This is meaningless drivel. We want to
>build a system of governance--with most of the same services
>that governments provide today--but on a moral foundation.
>We only seek to destroy those functions of government that
>are positively evil,

You see, this is what I was talking about: Governent "evil"? Why don't you
call electricity evil? It sometimes kills people. Cheese kills people,
eventually. You don't call cheese evil, do you?
Goverment is just a tool. Yes, I think that people, especially the kind of
people who work in govt, are generally bad. But govt workers are our
employees. We need to control them, and not them let "farm" us, as they
would like to do.

They will push us as far as we will let them.

And speaking of evidence/proof etc., what should we make of the result of
rapid change from statism to ... some form of anarchy that we have seen in
post-cold war Russia? Isn't that the closest thing to real life evidence
that there are problems in the statism to libertarianism change model?

>I have no resentment at all to sharing as such, but I /do/ resent
>very strongly the gun pointed at me, and that's not just an "attitude"
>or point of view. It is a simple, undeniable fact. Monopoly
>government exercises its madates by FORCE, period. If you deny

What if I were to buy shares in a corporation, and then attend a
shareholders' meeting, raise hell, destroy the property there, and otherwise
be bad, does the company have any right to remove me by force? I do have
rights, no?
You see, in any organization, not everyone will agree on the proper course
of action in every circumstance. But actions must be taken regardless. Force
may be needed. Such are the cold realities, etc.

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