Re: Obsolesence of Intellectual Property

From: phil osborn (
Date: Sun Aug 06 2000 - 20:52:43 MDT

>From: "John M Grigg" <>
>Subject: Re: Obsolesence of Intellectual Property
>Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 21:46:40 -0900
> >From: Paul Hughes <>
> >Subject: Re: Obsolesence of Intellectual Property
> >Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 00:32:02 -0700
> >
> >Jason Joel Thompson wrote:
> >
> > > Uh, actually this argument fails to sway because it defines theft in
> >very
> > > simplistic terms. You might not be stealing my music if you copy it,
> >but
> > > you certainly are stealing my profit. If you desire something that I
> >have
> > > spent energy producing, then it is clear that we should come to some
> > > arrangement by which I should end up with something that you have
> > > energy producing (like, er, money for instance.)
>Phil Osborn wrote:
>Actually, it just occurred to me that I get about as much enjoyment at the
>spa where I work out from watching all the hot female hard bodies in action
>as I do from music - perhaps more. Perhaps I should be paying them a
>royalty? They certainly put a lot of work into getting to the point that I
>can enjoy the sight of them, and it was probably done at least partially
>for the purpose of creating that reaction in the right man.
>I remember a Chinese legend about a very wise judge who had in his court a
>furious baker who said a poor man in his village would come and stand
>outside his bakery everyday to enjoy the smell. And the man did not even
>recompense the baker for this!! The judge ordered that the poor man jingle
>the change in his pockets. "You have now been paid!," was the response of
>the judge...

But now consider the possibility of an "overlaid" (also referred to as
"augmented," but I prefer the value-neutral more-descriptive term) reality,
in which what you see may very well depend upon whether you agree to the
conditions. I.e., the hard-bodies may well be disguised by a black (virtual
or real) cloak. You only get to see them as they want you to, whether you
happen to meet their criteria for possible mate/lover or whether you're
willing to ante up.

The VR SIG of the IICS of L.A. once had a session on "teledildonics."
Suppose sex or intimate interaction at a distance becomes fashionable? In
the late '70's or early '80's, there was this crotch-mounted subwoofer that
briefly became the rage among the adolescent set, so this may not be
far-fetched at all. All you need is a remote control and a feedback loop.
Remember the guy in "Brainstorm" who looped the orgasm mind-tape and played
it all day?
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