Re: CRYO/AGING: [was Re: CRYO: Illegality of Cryonics in British Columbia]

From: CYMM (
Date: Wed Jul 19 2000 - 13:28:06 MDT

Robert & Michael.

But shouldn't an Extropian be a survivalist? Shouldn't he/she look at worse
case scenarios and plan for those too?

I'm not really scared of catastrophes... but I'm scared of not including
them in my planning.

Surely there are those among us who have a real personal survival agenda...
I subscribe to MURG; I'm doing my humanscale cognitive software... I'm on
the various LE lists... good gosh I get 400 - 500 pieces of mail a day!

I'd surely like to join an LE group that's not trying to sell me something
other than empirical soundness.

But where does an Extropian/Transhuman who's seriously into this stuff go
for actual implementation... or do we STILL have to play a wait-and-see

I mean this in all sincerity. I decided on my course of action in the very
late sixties... I retire (as planned) in 2001 to do all the neat stuff. So
three decades have shown that at least I'm persistent.

Surely there are others... we can't all be waiting for our respective ships
to come in?


>CYMM wrote:
>> MICHAEL SAID: "...Revival WILL be
>> acheived some day, and the revival priority will most likely be a 'last
>> first out' regimen, as the most recent cryonauts will likely be the
>> to
>> revive, so I don't think the statements of post mortem bravery posted
>> on
>> the list have much risk of being called upon at some future date...."
>> CYMM SAYS: I really wish I had such faith... I'm not even sure that our
>> cirrent civilization is robust enough to withstand the slings & arrows of
>> the 21st Century. There is far too much interdependence and
>> overpopulation... a descent to a "lower" level of civilization would
>> mass death & and huge loss of technological knowledge.
>The followers of Dr. Mathus thought, in the 1800's, that we would have long
>reached the dismal state you describe. Guess what? No such luck. As time
goes on
>I am less and less concerned with the bleats and brays of the naysayers and
>luddites. They are a pain, but they are engineering their own obsolescence

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