Re: SV: Makign money as a creative (was) Napster: thoughts and

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Mon Jul 17 2000 - 14:26:40 MDT

Jason Joel Thompson wrote:
> > > Listen, the fact of the matter is that technology can overcome any
> arbitrary
> > > "barrier to entry" that you might like to erect. Including timely
> > > transmission, or whatever other attribute you'd like to try to use to
> make
> > > your intellectual property valuable.
> >
> > If the broadcast is over a cable channel, where all subscribers have
> signed
> > contracts to not re-use data, then copyright is irrelevant AND the
> property
> > value of timliness is retained.
> > Then what will happen is if you try to broadcast in violation of contract,
> your
> > packets can also be jammed, and you can then be sued via the PPL network.
> Firstly, it doesn't matter if its over a cable channel-- that's no
> security-- I've got a pure stream of cable coming in my house and I can
> re-broadcast that signal, no problem.
> Secondly, this whole concept of signing contracts to not re-use data is
> really just a form of content ownership which is apparently the thing you're
> arguing against.

No its not. A copyright is an unsigned social contract enforced by law, where
private use contracts where the parties explicitely agree to the terms prior to
the release of information are entirely different. Your failure to understand
this difference is exactly why you continue to try to argue these points. I
(mostly as a devils advocate), and I beleive Lee, argue for the right of other
original artists who independently create identical or near identical artwork to
be able to derive a use from that art without be hamstrung by prior art by
others that is protected by law under copyright laws. Both of us have argued
that private means of protecting one's intellectual property are quite
sufficient to recoup a profit on one's work.

Here you are trying to change the subject now. Point blank is you don't want to
be bound by the contracts you enter into. Fine. There are a lot of people who
don't want to be bound by restrictions on hunting seasons on human beings. Lets
say we loosen both of them up... ;-P

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