Re: kneecapping ( was: Re: Cryonics propaganda...)

Brian Atkins (
Sun, 06 Jun 1999 02:23:22 -0400

This is getting way off topic, but I would be curious if would even be legal here in the US to kneecap someone who is threatening you with a tazer. According to a book I read yesterday, "The Law of Self-Defense: A Guide for the armed citizen", if you use lethal force on someone who was only threatening you with non-lethal force, then you likely will lose the ability to claim self-defense in court. Of course, you might argue that you thought they would kill you after tazering you, but it might be an iffy argument. After reading this book, I see a high value in carrying around a good non-lethal force method (pepper spray, etc.) if you are carrying a gun.

Damien Broderick wrote:
> "Michael S. Lorrey" wrote:
> >> What you'd rather be tazered by a mean drunk without response than to
> shoot the bastards
> >> kneecaps off?
> and dwayne replied:
> >Hell yeah! What, you would? You'd blow somebody's kneecaps off if they
> >tasered you? Wow, what a monster.
> [...]
> >Wow, I'm still boggled by your "shoot the kneecaps off" comment.
> Somehow this exchanges neatly sums up a difference I detect between *some*
> American extropians and *many* of the rest of us from other apparently
> similar countries such as Oz (and maybe Sweden). Granted that Mikey's
> remark is rhetorical overkill, still it's the kind of trigger-finger
> fantasy (I hope!) that frightens and depresses people raised in slightly
> different cultures.
> (I'm still boggled, too.)
> Damien Broderick

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