Re: jeff's cyborg cells

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True, complexity PER SE (neuro-physiological, non-organic cybernetic, or mycelic) does not necessarily imply ("emergent"?) consciousness (even basic sentience, beyond mere "vegetative"). Having conceded that, however, it might behoove the two instant parties, and anyone else out there to check out (thoroughly, and without prejudice) most or all of Terrence McKenna's stuff on psilosybin-containing mushrooms. Terry's brother, Dennis, has done some good work over the years in the neuro-physiology-cum-phenomenology of the psychedelic experience. Terrence claims that the mycelic tendrons of these particular 'shrooms do indeed harbor a vivid, quite high level, intelligence. I myself am ambivalent/skeptical about this, but, hey, check out their stuff, before pooh-poohing such ideas all together.

Best regards to all,

MCP                     Beyond Eutopia---Toward (Meta)Cosmic Horizons!


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True, complexity PER SE (neuro-physiological, non-organic cybernetic, or mycelic) does not necessarily imply ("emergent"?) consciousness (even basic sentience, beyond mere "vegetative").  Having conceded that, however, it might behoove the two instant parties, and anyone else out there to check out (thoroughly, and without prejudice) most or all of Terrence McKenna's stuff on psilosybin-containing mushrooms. Terry's brother, Dennis, has done some good work over the years in the neuro-physiology-cum-phenomenology of the psychedelic experience.  Terrence claims that the mycelic tendrons of these particular 'shrooms do indeed harbor a vivid, quite high level, intelligence.  I myself am ambivalent/skeptical about this, but, hey, check out their stuff, before pooh-poohing such ideas all together. Best regards to all, MCP                     Beyond Eutopia---Toward (Meta)Cosmic Horizons!