hal@226-132.adsl2.avtel.net wrote:
> I say there are situations where other methods than private property work
> best for organizing the use of resources.
<insert assorted examples>
Yes, there are situations in which a strict adherence to the idea of individual ownership of everything would not work. However, 'private property' does not imply that everything must be owned by an individual.
Some resources have little or no economic significance, and thus are not worth the bother of keeping track of. So, regardless of our economic system, no one will worry about who owns which ant or which cc of air because no one cares.
> I think you have tremendously oversimplified the situation here. Even if
> we agree that we should use property rights to dispose of the fruits
> of our labor, that would only refer to made objects. In fact, people
> often try to extend property beyond things which humans have created,
> such as the ants and air in my examples above.
You are correct. I should also state that a system of private property allows individuals and organizations to freely buy and sell things that are found in nature, while a pure collectivist system forbids all such exchanges and a socialist system falls somewhere in between. However, this is not much of an addition, because it is a separate case for only the most basic of material inputs (land, air, etc.) Most things we think of as 'natural resources' do not exist in any useable form until someone invests effort to create them, so the question I pose directly describes a large majority of the economy.
I'm still curious as to whether anyone can suggest a different way of dealing with this issue.
> Even in the context of human creations, it is often the case that
> property rights are not the most efficient means of deciding what will
> be done with them. Families do not use property rights to make many
> of their resource allocation decisions, and neither do corporations,
> and neither do voluntary communities like our own. It could be done; we
> could pay for each posting, and every object in your home could be owned
> by a specific person. But we don't do that, because it is
> not efficient.
In all of these cases those who actually own the property are the ones who make the decisions about how it will be used - directly in the case of small groups like a family, and indirectly in larger organizations. I think what you are really trying to say here is that they don't use markets to make their decisions. That is true, and in some of these cases it is a good thing, but in others it isn't.
However, this does not mean that there is never a need for markets. In fact, the opposite is true. In small organizations an authoritarian or collective system can work well, but as the scale increases they become increasingly ineffective. Central planning on the scale of a large corporation is very inefficient, which is why there is such a strong movement towards decentralized decision-making today. On the scale of a modern economy it is even worse - an economy without markets has its hands full just keeping people fed, as the Russians recently demonstrated.
So, I would say that the best approach is to make free markets and private property the default assumption for all economic activity. If individuals find it advantageous to voluntarily pool their resources into small collectives from time to time, this system would leave them free to do so. They would also be free to form any other sort of organization they wish, which would presumably lead to the best overall results that we can hope for.
Billy Brown, MCSE+I
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