RE: META: What did I do wrong?

Jonathan Reeves (JonathanR@mail.iclshelpdesks.com)
Thu, 20 May 1999 11:31:50 +0100

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Jocelyn Brown wrote:

> FWIW, you haven't offended me a bit. I don't respond to your statements
> because you don't respond to counterpoints. Based on that, debate is > impossible. Besides, all the points you raised are answered in complete
> eloquence in both "The Fountainhead" and "Atlas Shrugged." If you haven't
> read these books, I suggest you do. If you have, and you still feel
the way
> you do, then once again debate is pointless.

Debate is also impossible if someone merely tells you to read one of their favourite books evry time you raise a point they disagree with.

> As to why you have offended so many, I can only proffer my opinion. You
> espouse ideas such as negation of private property and the importance of
> society over the individual. To many of us who are on this list, those > concepts are immoral and ultimately evil. It is the same thing as a Jew

> getting offended at someone advocating the Holocaust. The ideas of
> objectivism, enlightened self-interest, and the importance of private
> ownership of poverty are the foundation upon which we live our lives
and
> seek to influence the future. If you seek to influence the future in other

> directions, you cannot expect anything other than for us to combat you at
> every turn.

Immoral ? Ultimately evil ?
This is a discussion forum for transhuman ideas. I was of the belief that it was intended for debate between open minded intelligent people, willing to contemplate someone elses point of view without dismissing it out of hand because it doesnt happen to agree with their particular world view.



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Jocelyn Brown wrote:

> FWIW, you haven't offended me a bit. I don't = respond to your statements
> because you don't respond to counterpoints. = Based on that, debate is
> impossible. Besides, all the points you raised = are answered in complete
> eloquence in both "The Fountainhead" = and "Atlas Shrugged." If you haven't
> read these books, I suggest you do. If you = have, and you still feel the way
> you do, then once again debate is = pointless.

Debate is also impossible if someone merely tells = you to read one of their favourite books evry time you raise a point = they disagree with.


> As to why you have offended so many, I can only = proffer my opinion. You
> espouse ideas such as negation of private = property and the importance of
> society over the individual. To many of us who = are on this list, those
> concepts are immoral and ultimately evil. It is = the same thing as a Jew
> getting offended at someone advocating the = Holocaust. The ideas of
> objectivism, enlightened self-interest, and the = importance of private
> ownership of poverty are the foundation upon = which we live our lives and
> seek to influence the future. If you seek to = influence the future in other
> directions, you cannot expect anything other = than for us to combat you at
> every turn.

Immoral ? Ultimately evil ?
This is a discussion forum for transhuman = ideas.  I was of the belief that it was intended for debate = between open minded intelligent people, willing to contemplate someone = elses point of view without dismissing it out of hand because it doesnt = happen to agree with their particular world view.