Re: -=A Couple Q's=-

Scott Badger (wbadger@psyberlink.net)
Sat, 8 May 1999 08:03:16 -0500

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robot wrote:

>I have a couple q's i would like to have cleared up. First off i = would like to know what is the ultimate goal of the post human form.<

First, there will likely be multiple post-human forms and any = particular form should be free to alter its form if it so desires. = Second, how would we know what their ultimate goals are going to be? We = would hope that they would value rationality, knowledge aquisition, and = freedom for starters.

>I hear talk about over population, econimic gitchs due to = immortality, ect.<

I will trade immortality for economic glitches all day long. And = overpopulation will be a problem eventually anyway.

>It seems to me that the whole point of becoming post-human is to = break the limitaions of human restriction;<=20

It's one of the points.

>and there have been statements about future issues due to = transhumanism that are already human issues right now.<=20

Yes, our set of problems will not be entirely new.

>My second q is that of the emotion that a human experiences. What is = the relevance of an emotion in post-human form?<=20

Once again, I'm guessing that we will speciate and there will be = multiple post-human forms, some that have decided to keep human-type = emotions (though probably enhanced/customized), some that won't.

>Any info/links on emotion studys would be great.<=20

http://www.unige.ch/fapse/emotion/welcome.html

http://www.ki.se/cns/news/amygdala-e.html

http://www.consciousness.arizona.edu/emotionfeb99.html

>Lastly, what are your views on the collective whole?<

You mean becoming Borg-like? I see partial collectives as very likely. = Hopefully the indvidual will always be able to disconnect and be a free = agent though. It is also pretty feasible, I'm guessing, for an = individual to make whole/partial copies/agents and become his/her/its = own collective/distributed intelligence.

>On an aside, i must highly recommend some music due to the fact of = the artists mastery of the machine as a musical tool. Some some of the = best artists out there doing this are; Aphex Twin, Autechre, Square = Pusher, Jega, and Bola. If you wish to learn more about this music, = check out www.warp.net. or contact me @ my personal e-mail = (robot@neo.lrun.com) to gain access to my mp3 site w/ 12 gigs worth of = IDM (the name of the future music style). Its great stuff.... ;)<

Why not just go ahead and give us your web-site with the music files? = There's nothing at www.warp.net except an e-mail link.

Scott

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robot =20
  wrote:

  
>I have a couple q's i would like to have cleared up. =
First=20
  off i would like to know what is the ultimate goal of the post human=20
  form.<

  
 

  
First, there will likely be multiple =
post-human forms=20
  and any particular form should be free to alter its form if it so=20
  desires.  Second, how would we know what their ultimate =
goals are=20
  going to be?  We would hope that they would value rationality, =
knowledge=20
  aquisition, and freedom for starters.

  
 

  
>I hear talk about over population, econimic gitchs due to=20
  immortality, ect.<

  
 

  
I will trade immortality for =
economic glitches=20
  all day long.  And overpopulation will be a problem eventually=20
  anyway.

  
 

  
>It seems to me that the whole point of becoming post-human is =
to=20
  break the limitaions of human restriction;< 

  
 

  
It's one of the points.

  
 

  
>and there have been statements about future issues due to=20
  transhumanism that are already human issues right now.< 

  
 

  
Yes, our set of problems will not be entirely=20
  new.

  
 

  
>My second q is that of the emotion that a human experiences. =
What is=20
  the relevance of an emotion in post-human form?< 

  
 

  
Once again, I'm guessing that we will speciate and =
there=20
  will be multiple post-human forms, some that have decided to keep =
human-type=20
  emotions (though probably enhanced/customized), some that =
won't.

  
 

  
>Any info/links on emotion studys would be great.< 

  
 

  
http://www.unige.=
ch/fapse/emotion/welcome.html

  
 

  
http://www.ki.se/cns/n=
ews/amygdala-e.html

  
 

  
http://ww=
w.consciousness.arizona.edu/emotionfeb99.html

  
 

  
>Lastly, what are your views on the collective =
whole?<

  
You mean becoming Borg-like? I see partial =
collectives as=20
  very likely.  Hopefully the indvidual will always be able to =
disconnect=20
  and be a free agent though.  It is also pretty feasible, I'm =
guessing,=20
  for an individual to make whole/partial copies/agents and become =
his/her/its=20
  own collective/distributed intelligence.

  

>On an aside, i must highly recommend some =
music=20
  due to the fact of the artists mastery of the machine as a musical =
tool. Some=20
  some of the best artists out there doing this are; Aphex Twin, =
Autechre,=20
  Square Pusher, Jega, and Bola. If you wish to learn more about this =
music,=20
  check out www.warp.net. or contact me @ my =
personal=20
  e-mail (robot@neo.lrun.com) to gain access to my mp3 site w/ 12 gigs =
worth of=20
  IDM (the name of the future music style). Its great stuff.... =
;)<

  
Why not just go ahead and give us your web-site =
with the=20
  music files?  There's nothing at www.warp.net except an e-mail=20
link.

  
 

  
Scott


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