Re: creationsim

Max More (
Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:46:23 -0700

At 07:22 PM 6/23/98 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 wrote:
>> Maybe there WAS no beginning.
>Of course there was no 'beginning'... Existence exists and has always
>existed, eternally. To think otherwise would be to admit of the
>contradiction that existence did not exist.

This sounds like the ontological argument. There is no contradication in
saying that the universe came into existence. It may not make sense to say
that there was nothing *before* the universe (or multiverse -- if you think
our universe may be an offshoot of another). "Existence does not exist" is
a contradiction, but "the universe has not always existed" is not.


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