Re: Questions for Ian (was Re: Utilitarian Set Up :)

Ian Goddard (
Tue, 26 May 1998 03:42:50 -0400

At 06:15 AM 5/26/98 GMT, Randy Smith wrote:

>> IAN: I believe that we could say that L (libertarianism)
>> is the intersection of U (utilitarianism) and M (me first),
>> as such (using squares to define sets rather than circles):
>> ______
>> U | ___|___
>> | | | | M
>> | | L | |
>> | | | |
>> | ----|----
>> --------
>> Some of M is outside L and U, and some of U is out-
>> side L, as you note above. So I think this is it. ?
>Now, THAT is cryptic!

IAN: I don't think that the above is mysterious,
occultic or most things that might be inferred
from the term "cryptic." The post pertains to
expressing the categories stated as sets to
define their exact relations to one another.
Of course, not following the thread could
cause such a "cryptic impression." I do
try to say the most I can with the least.

>Are you a cryonicist? Your website writings indicate that your
>personal beliefs tend towards acceptance of, how can I say it,
>the supernatural. That would be unusual for a cryonicist.

IAN: The Random House Webster's College Dictionary
defines "supernatural" as "of, pertaining to, or being
above what is natural or explainable by natural law."
Also noted is occult, ghosts, Gods, deities... I don't
believe I have promoted a belief in any thing that
was above any or beyond any natural physical law.

Of course my holistic philosophy may be seen as
supernatural to believers in atomistic identity,
even as they cannot support a view contrary to
holism with a single item of physical evidence.
I believe that atomist identity is supernatural.
The identity that is what it is free from holistic
relation is even more fallacious than Gods and ghosts,
since the later at least have existence in the mind,
yet the free identity cannot even exist in the mind.


"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its
opponents and making them see the light, but rather because
its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows
up that is familiar with the idea from the beginning."

Max Plank - Nobel physicist

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual.
Those who deny individual rights cannot claim
to be defenders of minorities." Ayn Rand