Yak Wax (
Wed, 6 May 1998 11:51:11 -0700 (PDT)

Chuck Kuecker wrote:
> However, I have to question whether low
> intelligence indicates a 'chaotic' view. I
> would expect the lower intelligence would
> entail a simpler view of the world. A child
> begins with a simple view of things around
> him, and adds complexity as he grows and
> learns. A less intelligent person does not
> learn as quickly, and would be less
> sophisticated in his views.

But doesn't a limited ability to handle complex situations lead to a
chaotic view? A higher intelligence can see the cause and effect of
many things simultaneously. A lesser intelligence that is unable to
see cause and effect sees randomness and probability.

Now read this quote from Hans Moravec (Simulation, Consciousness,
Existence - Telepolis 96):


"Hartle and Gell-Mann note that if we were to try to observe and remember events at the finest possible detail - around 10^-30 centimeters, far smaller than anything reachable today - the interference of all possible worlds would present a seething chaos with no permanent structures, no quiet place to store memories, effectively no consistent time. At a coarser viewing scale - 10^-15 centimeters, the submicroscopic world touched by today's high-energy physics - much of the chaos goes unobserved, and multiple worlds merge together, canceling the wildest possibilities, leaving those where particles can exhibit a consistent existence and motion, if still jaggedly unpredictable, through a vacuum that boils with ephemeral virtual energy. Everyday objects have the smooth, predictable trajectories of common sense only because our dim senses are coarser still, registering nothing finer than 10^-5 centimeters. At scales larger than the everyday (or the Hartle Gell-Mann analysis), the events we consider interesting are blurred to invisibility, and the universe is increasingly boring and predictable. At the largest possible scale, the universe's matter is canceled by the negative energy in its gravitational fields (which strengthen while releasing energy, as matter falls together), and in sum there is nothing at all.

The odd thing about the Gell-Mann Hartle spectrum is that it is not some external knob that controls the interaction intensity, but varying interpretations of a single underlying reality made by observers who are part of the interpretation."


So the predictability of the world is related to how you consciously observe it. I'm not exactly the authroity on the Gell-Mann Hartle Spectrum so don't take anything I say at face value. But someone who's "more conscious" (is seeing things on larger scale i.e. more complexity) would seem more intelligent than someone who is "less-conscious." So it could be that intelligence and consciousness is the same thing.

Anyone care to correct me?

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