Re: Why atheism beats agnosticism (Was: Re: Contacting God)

Erik Moeller (
Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:07:34 +0200

>>> I work with fundamental Christians. Although I have all the knowledge to
refute their beliefs completely, I don't. Why should I interfere with other
people's lives?<<

>To save them, mentally and physically?

No way to do that in most cases, especially with fundmentalists. Take a look
at the story of Masada: When they realized that what they believed in, that
God would save them when their trouble was greatest, did not happen, they
all killed themselves and each other.

>You underestimate the power of the religion meme. It's almost impossible
>to remove it; it gets stronger when attacked (the poor martyr sub-meme).
>No amount of reason will suffice, god knows I've tried ;-) Should the
>unthinkable happen (it's a miracle!) ...

I wrote that you *could* destroy other people's lives with facts. It is
certainly not a walk in the park, but it can happen.

This especially applies to Christian religion which has one severe bug which
can easily be exploited: Jesus. The historical Jesus, whose name was not
Jesus but Zaddik or Zadduk, is an entirely different person than the one
pictured in the Bible. Read "The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception" by Michael
Baigent and Richard Leigh. I don't want to go on further as their might be
Christians on this list.

>I would call it leaving a serious mental condition untreated.

But if the operation kills the patient?

Erik Moeller