Re: Holistic ID & Relativity

Ian Goddard (
Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:25:56 -0400

Anton Sherwood ( wrote:

>> IAN: Relativity proves the holistic nature
>> of identity: an identity attribute of a thing
>> is its state of motion, its velocity.
>That means nothing, not even an electron, retains its
>(vernacular) identity from one moment to the next.

IAN: Agreed, and observe that moment (1) is
different than moment (2), and as you observe,
each represents a new identity... and why?
Because they are different. Ergo: difference
is the basis of identity, not "same as,"
and "difference" is holistic.

>> The motion of A relative to A is always 0,
>You're forgetting rotation.

IAN: Good observation, yet I've not forgot it:

>> just as the identity
>> of A relative to A is 0. The motion of A is derived
>for "derived" read "measured"

IAN: Yes. Measuring is the process of
relation, differentiation... holism.

>> All identity attributes are derived by the relation of
>> A to things that are different than A. This claim
>> of identity I make is physically proven,
>Attributes are not the same thing as identity.
>You confuse identity with description.
>Refute that, smart guy.

IAN: Semitics at best.

>> It is a crackpot meme that has infected the mass.
>You know, usually when someone says "everyone is wrong"
>we call him paranoid.

IAN: Name calling... it sure beats admitting your wrong.

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