Re: disappointing responses

E. Shaun Russell (
Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:35:07 -0800 (PST)

Perry wrote:

>I would, however, suggest this: achieving dreams is usually more
>satisfying that merely having them. Most Extropians dream of a life
>without end and without unreasonable constraints. A surprisingly large
>fraction, however, do very little in the way of attempting to actually
>achieve that sort of life for themselves.

How do you come to that conclusion?

>I don't believe in the concepts of universal good and evil, so I will not
>judge people for not attempting to achieve their dreams. I will, however,
>suggest that most people are happier if they actually are moving forward
>toward them rather than simply thinking about them.

[Bring out my age-old generic response here.] You forget that this
is merely a list that deals with the arguments and information provided by
like-minded people...a list exclusively made for such discourse. Most (if
not all) on this list do more for extropy than check their mail every hour
and subscribe to a few magazines. Extropy's something that I cannot even
comprehend being idle and wishy-washy about. I would wager that most people
on this list were extropians before they even heard the term spoken.
However, your argument appears similar to arguing whether a whisper is more
effective than a shout...they both have their place. What *is*
disappointing is the SIGNAL:NOISE ratio. Currently we have a lot of NOISE
going on this list (my post included) as opposed to the desired SIGNAL. It
isn't hard to get SIGNAL happening, but first you must relinquish the NOISE.
Nothing's stopping any of us from generating SIGNAL and complaining about it
isn't doing anything. So who is going to aim their stone?

Kineticize your Potential!

-E. Shaun Russell

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