Re: tech miracles of the year 2000 as seen from 1950

From: Eugene Leitl (
Date: Fri May 18 2001 - 06:16:26 MDT

On Fri, 18 May 2001, Francois-Rene Rideau wrote:

> You're wrong.
> has 25 members and going up.

I commend you for your efforts. However, I'm interested in nonextinct

> > Naw, of course people still do (, for instance ;).
> The server has been bushed out.

Yes, that's a rather nasty piece of shrubbery.

> There's a revival of LISP with the younger free software generation. See
> CLiki
> #lisp

Thanks for the links.

> > And, of course, there's still the issue of designing a Forth
> > MISC machine into a cube of bucky electronics.
> It's been discussed on the MISC mailing-list quite some time,
> but it looks like even more vaporware than Tunes (well, bets are open).

Hey, I wasn't discussing about other people doing it, I was discussing
about *me* doing it some decades downstream ;)

> The LISP community lost the celestial mandate as it closed and split
> its hacker community into corporations hoarding proprietary systems.
> LISP mostly excluded newcomers from its elite hacker base, except a few
> lucky enough to ride on a $100,000 subvention for a LISP Machine,
> and thus withered away into irrelevance and repeated bankruptcy.
> As says my mother, LISP hackers were punished for their greed and arrogance.

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