Re: tech miracles of the year 2000 as seen from 1950

From: Francois-Rene Rideau (
Date: Fri May 18 2001 - 04:43:20 MDT

>>: Spike Jones wrote:
>> (((((Is anyone still using it?)))))

>: wrote:
> (NIL)

You're wrong.
has 25 members and going up.

> Naw, of course people still do (, for instance ;).
The server has been bushed out.

> In fact I intend to go back to Lisp, provided
> I survive the Python experience. It's just getting productive
> in Lisp without a supportive community and a codebase is *hard*.
There's a revival of LISP with the younger free software generation. See

> And, of course, there's still the issue of designing a Forth
> MISC machine into a cube of bucky electronics.
It's been discussed on the MISC mailing-list quite some time,
but it looks like even more vaporware than Tunes (well, bets are open).

[ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | ]
[ TUNES project for a Free Reflective Computing System | ]
The LISP community lost the celestial mandate as it closed and split
its hacker community into corporations hoarding proprietary systems.
LISP mostly excluded newcomers from its elite hacker base, except a few
lucky enough to ride on a $100,000 subvention for a LISP Machine,
and thus withered away into irrelevance and repeated bankruptcy.
As says my mother, LISP hackers were punished for their greed and arrogance.

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