Re: CRYO: "Ischemia" vs. "Reversibly dead"

From: Michael M. Butler (
Date: Tue Apr 24 2001 - 00:04:47 MDT

Not at all, if so, I think it needs to be addressed. You might be right. I'm just saying I had missed it.

Your points are important. A frank exchange of views is, too. As one of the guys with a bracelet, I thank you for
speaking out.

"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> "Michael M. Butler" wrote:
> >
> > *I* was always under the impression that "ischemia" in the context of cryonics referred to the period of interrupted
> > flow between cessation of vital signs and either (1) initiation of perfusion, or (2) stabilization at suspension
> > temperature. Arguably, patients coming out of storage could be called "ischemic", too.
> Oh. I thought that ischemia was being used to refer to the actual
> suspension period, which is admittedly my fault, but will perhaps be
> recurrently the fault of others as well. Anyway, I know that "ischemic
> coma" was proffered as a synonym for "reversibly dead" at least once in
> the history of cryonics, and I also know that I've seen some attempts
> lately to soft-pedal the fact of death, so perhaps I can be forgiven my
> misinterpretation.
> -- -- -- -- --
> Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
> Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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