Re: Capitalism, Private Property, etc (was Re: Sweatshops)

From: Michael Lorrey (
Date: Wed Apr 18 2001 - 09:30:14 MDT

Mark Walker wrote:
> From: Michael Lorrey <>
> )There is an inherend contradiction in socialism in general, which
> > claims to respect the 'labor theory of value', but does not respect a
> > laborers right to own and reinvest the fruit of their labor in interest
> > bearing activities. This failure in socialist theory is the primary
> > reason why socialism = slavery, far more than a sweatshop ever is.
> >
> > Whenever Ibring up this point with alleged socialists, anarchists, or
> > libertarian socialists, they dodge the issue because they know they
> > cannot resolve the paradox.
> >
> > Until socialism gives up on its denial of the right of private property,
> > it will remain a contradiction in terms.
> >
> I am afraid I don't see the contradiction. Is it your claim that the "right
> to own and reinvest the fruit of their [the worker's] labor in interest
> bearing activities" is supposed to be self-evident? If so, it looks like
> you're begging the question against socialism. If not, I fail to see the
> paradox.

The failure to permit the laborer to keep and use the fruits of his
labor as he would any tool (used to generate a return on investment) is
slavery, pure and simple.

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