Re: CHAT: What statement?

From: Ross A. Finlayson (raf@tiki-lounge.com)
Date: Sat Apr 07 2001 - 12:37:13 MDT


Ken Clements wrote:

> "Ross A. Finlayson" wrote:
>
> > J. R. Molloy wrote:
> >
> > > Everything that can happen has already happened, not just once, but an
> > > infinite number of times, and will continue to do so forever. (Plus one,
> > > because it's always one more τΏτ )
> >
> > If that were so, then eternity would be engulfed in actual chaos. It is not
> > so.
>
> How do you know? At the quantum foam level, we *are* engulfed in actual chaos.
> However, most of the particles at that level do not have enough pattern
> integrity to last long enough to notice. If you think that the place and moment
> you occupy have some special status, how does that happen? How is the symmetry
> of everywhere and everywhen broken to make here and now? We cannot seem to find
> anything in physics that establishes a preferred frame. I know the illusion of
> here and now seems so strong, but that is exactly what you would expect the
> Universe to seem like from the inside. What J.R. has written in not so much
> what I want to believe, but it is the base line I am left with, given no means
> to break symmetry.
>
> -Ken

There might be shadows of reality, that is to say, parallel universes, but they are
not so different. Think about it in terms of locality. If they were like shadows
then they would be the result of some kind of light-like projective thing.

And, all our scientific evidence points to our one true reality. Global warming is
already here, for example, and steps actually do have to be taken to deal with the
effects of largescale socioeconomic practices.

So, when we talk about chaos, we are probably talking about different things. Also,
consider the prefix "anti-" for any noun. For example, "anti-reality", or
"anti-chaos".

I have posted some of my opinions on quantum reality before. For example, there is
waveform, and waveform dualism and trialism, for example, as metaphors.

Ross

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