Re: Economic (ignorance) Nativism and me

From: Emlyn (
Date: Sat Mar 24 2001 - 20:53:30 MST

Absolutely. This doesn't make any sense.

If there were no shortage, your salaries/rates would be lower than they are.
Then, where would the incentive be to get people from overseas?

I also agree with Robert... these big orgs don't need to stuff around
getting H1-Bs into the country in huge numbers. They just set up *very
large* development shops in countries like india, and pay people with pretty
colored stones and stuff they found stuck in their shoe. It's smaller orgs
than that who would benefit from "artificially" getting cheap coders onsite
(orgs who don't understand teleworking, obviously), and they don't have the
clout to manipulate things.

I've seen this line trotted out on slashdot before... it continues to make
no sense.

btw, what makes you think that this growth in demand for geeks is a line of
crap? Maybe it's true.

Emlyn James O'Regan - Managing Director
Wizards of AU
"Australian IT Wizards - US Technology Leaders
Pure International Teleworking in the Global Economy"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: Economic (ignorance) Nativism and me

> On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 wrote:
> > I was watching a CNN report, on an issue that has been brewing since
> > year, when an org funded by Gates of Microsoft, and Larry Elison of
> > had a 'study' that postulated something like 1.5 million IT jobs would
> > created in the USA in something like 5 years.
> Mitch, knowing Larry to the degree that I do, I very much doubt he
> would cooperate with Bill on anything (even something that is
> to their mutual advantage). I would strongly urge you to
> investigate the background sources on your comments. While
> it is not implausible that they both may have contributed to
> such an effort, it would be *un*-likely that they did so knowing
> that the other was involved. In which case the awards should go to
> the individual behind the scenes that got them both to contribute.
> Microsoft and Oracle both have overseas software development
> efforts. To be promoting the emmigration of these people
> to the U.S. seems counter productive. You will always have
> to pay them more within-U.S. relative to non-U.S. locations.
> To make a case that MSFT or ORACLE are behind this, you have
> to make a case that it is more to their advantage to move
> offshore workers to the U.S. where the salaries would be higher.
> Robert

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