Re: Eliezer on Science versus Religion

From: scerir (
Date: Tue Mar 06 2001 - 03:13:37 MST

Damien wrote:
There might be certain kinds of truths, even the most important,
which are inaccessible to scientific approaches, let alone
to falsification tests.

There is a book.
'Mathematical Undecidability, Quantum Nonlocality,
and the Question of the Existence of God'
edrs: Alfred Driessen, Antoine Suarez
Kluwer acad. publ., 1997.
Papers by G.J. Chaitin, J.S. Bell, P. Davies,
A. Driessen, H:-C.Reichel, J. Laeuffer, etc.

Mathematics and Quantum Theory as pointers
to an _independent reality_ are discussed.
And also science vs religion and _scientism_ vs.
religion. And also Bernard d'Espagnat's book (and postulate)
about the ''Veiled Reality' (Addison-Wesley, 1995).

d'Espagnat's position is that this veiled reality exists
independently from human mind, and is found to be
essentially _superior_ to it, in the sense that it is
intrinsically unpredicatable, and that it can not be
known by aprioristic arguments.

There is some thin link, IMO, to the AIT of G.J. Chaitin
(just now becoming QAIT, quantum algorithmic i.t.).
In the sense that if the hypothesis of randomness
is _unprovable_ in principle, conversely the
teleological thesis is _irrefutable_ in principle.
[And that is, also, the old story of J. Monod vs.
Teilhard de Chardin].

- undecidable scerir

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